Yahowah יחוח and the messiah Yaho-oshu-wah

I had to add this post written by my friend Sholomo Hart

2 Thess. 2:3-11 Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed. ( Just who is this person) who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called (gd) or that is worshipped; so that he as (gd) sitteth in the temple(or church), shewing himself that he is gd) Just who is sitting in the churches of today? 8, and then shall that wicked be revealed, Just who is this person?

John 5:43 I come in my father name and ye receive me not, another came in his own name ye receive , just who is that person?

Rev 13:18 666, XES look up the old greek 600=X=chi rho monogram of christ, 60=E=xi=x dictionary under x =zu su, zeu,seu, . 6=S=sigma means s come out as krist je-zeus the false messiah christ je-sus very pagan

Hosea 2:16 Baal means LORD

Rev 2:6 Nicolaitans check a dictionary means christans. Rev 2: 15 they hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

Rev 17:5 Babylon(rome) the mother of Harlots(all christans) just look up church history.

We are to walk in the laws that Yahowah gave Moshe and to all of us to follow the best that we can.

If You check old hebrew from the dead sea scrolls יחוח is written. Yahowah and his son Yaho-oshu-wah Prov 30:4 what is my name and what is my sons name?

Shalom
Mike

Submitted by: messianicmdg, June 17th, 2008 Topic: Messianic Forums
Tags: hart, messiah, Messiah, sholomo, yaho-oshu-wah, yahowah

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goldenzion commented on June 19, 2009:

Come on guys, this just has to be set clear. This nonsense is not new, not inspired, not Jewish and definitely not messianic by any stretch of imagination. Some here are maybe new to this but those of us who have been a pert of the movement for a while have heard this silly business, but not from so-called “messianics” (everyone likes this name today) but from the “sacred name movement” people. Yes, it is a historical movement, do nto be lazy, take a few minutes google them. It is not Jewish, it has no connection with Messianic Judaism… Messiah’s name is Yeshua, not some morphed from of YHVH. How doe we know that? Simple… it is a real and quite popular name in 1st century Israel. Jewish names have meanings. The names they propose are nonsensical and do not exist. “Yeshua” has a definite linguistic meaning. Anyone can study this and understand this. Want to get a clue – read Matthew 1:21 in any Bible. My point is that this kind of stuff is not Messianic or Jewish by any stretch, so please do not listen to this condescending, self-righteous nonsense. Educate yourself. Next, they will tell you they are real Israel and we are not real Jews… don’t get me started… Oh, Shabbat is coming, I better go. Shalom to God’s family!

ohevyisrael commented on March 30, 2009:

I think its all about our hearts! If someone calls Him Lord because their heart tells them its right so they don't mistakenly mispronounce His real name, then fine. If someone else calls Him Yahweh because they feel it's the correct pronounciation and thats the most reverent way to address Him, then thats fine too. As long as everyone is respectful towards Him in their hearts thats whats important. When He returns and sets up His kingdom with us, I'm sure He will enable us to call Him His correct name, with the correct pronounciation. Until then no one should allow this to become a yolk upon their necks or put this yolk on someone elses!

Levi commented on March 01, 2009:

Good point Daniel....I think you are right...it is much like other things in the Body where individuals and groups place an emphasis on something important, but not necessary for salvation...also, if you say God's name correctly is there a blessing? The Bible does not say that nor does it command the proper pronunciation of God's name as it does to recite the Shema 2 times a day...I often wonder why people would place such an emphasis on something and not keep the commandments God & Yeshua do command!

Daniel Gregg commented on February 28, 2009:

Well, the ban on saying the name should be lifted. Of course we have to respect the scruples of others, and I am not proposing using it in public, but in private worship or worship where those present can accept it. At the same time the community ought to agree on a few acceptable pronunciations, i.e. Yahweh, Yahu-eh, that agree with correct Hebrew grammar. As it is, at least half the name is used all the time in Hallelu-Yah. There are of course many who have fallen into the sacred name trap that saying the name is necessary for salvation, a false doctrine that is ignorant of the Hebraic meaning of 'name'. If the name is allowed, and the correct gospel taught and the Hebraic meaning of name, then the rug will be pulled out from under the false doctrine.

john Burton commented on February 20, 2009:

Many people are coming under the yoke of more sacred name legalism as a result of not knowing what our Fathers True name really. The name of the Father That I serve is Eternal (LOVE). He is the Spirit of Agape. He knows our names and He knows those that are is. You don't have to speak Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic or Yiddish to call on Him.

Greg commented on December 17, 2008:

Why do non-Jewish messianics create new names for Elohim and Yeshua? And they are not even embarrassed! Unbelievable, unconscionable and unscrupulous!

Glasspole commented on July 21, 2008:

Simply, we do not know how to pronounce Yod-Heh with Vav-Keh. The Name of Messiah is not, properly "Y'Shua" or even "Yahshua". The nearest in English is actually "Yeshua". Regarding numbers, most of them are symbolic. Trying to read too much into them is a distraction

Medwining commented on June 21, 2008:

messianicmd - don't believe everything you hear! Part of the Messianic walk is uncovering truths, and often times we pick up a few wrong things along the way. 1. We do not know the Name of the Creator. I have found Latin sources that tell us that Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter/Zeus and I've talked with a scholar who has documents that prove that Yahowah is too. Those are the last names I will ever use to refer to the Creator. 2. Baal means lord. So what? Baal is also a Hebrew word that means husband. Read Jer 31:32 and you'll see that the Creator says he will be a baal (husband) to us. It's all about application. 3. Hebrew scholars tell us that Yaho-oshu-wah is simply a made up word. You do not need Yah in the word to have YHWH in your name. David said he came in the name of YHWH. Also note that the name of Hosea (Deliverer) was changed to Yehoshua by adding the Hebrew letter yod and changed the meaning to YHWH Delivers. Hebrew is not English and does not go by our rules of grammar. You might also note that they found the word Yeshua in the Bible Codes all throughout the Tanach. So don't get too hung up on names. In the Torah, it is the context that determines the word. So Elohim can be "God" or "false god" depending on the context. Shalom

vknipper commented on June 19, 2008:

I think Levi got it just right with this comment "I believe the bigger picture is spread the Good News, love God and love our neighbor as ourselves." Nicely stated. Talk about bringing unity to the Messianic Community... this statement can help to bring unity to all communities..... :)

Levi commented on June 18, 2008:

While I find the topic very interesting, I also sense that it is kind of straining a gnat. What happens to the one who never knew God's proper name, or Yeshua's name, yet through what has been created recognizes the Creator (Romans 1)? Yeshua called God His Father and He taught us to call God our Father in the Sermon on the Mount, or wherever it was...I believe the bigger picture is spread the Good News, love God and love our neighbor as ourselves.

Eliyahu commented on June 14, 2008:

The main thought is that Christ does not equal 666 as seemed to be noted in the article and secondly the origin of the name Jesus is not root in paganism. But as you noted it is not a salvation issue and the main thought should always be around salvation which is only through Yeshua(Jesus) HaMashiach (Christ).

Levi commented on June 14, 2008:

Very interesting, yet I am not certainif this is an exhotation to pronounce the Name properly or not...however, if it is I think you're on the right track Eliahu...even if the name was pronounced different...is it a salvation issue? Or, I am I misunderstanding here???

Eliyahu commented on June 12, 2008:

I noticed a flaw in this teaching on the name, although the word Hexakosioi (666) is written in Rev 13 it is the only time it occurs and is not the same as Christou which is the annointed used also in Rev 1:1 and in the septuagint Lev 4:5 translates the Hebrew (HaMashiach)to the Greek (Christou) meaning the Anointed. The name Joshua (Yehoshua) is also translated to Iesus. Unfortuenetly many people do not know the translation history of the name, First being Yehoshua in Hebrew later to Amamaic/Hebrew (Nem 9) to Yeshua. The greek added the 's' to masculinize the name as was done with Isiais. The latin/greek was translated into the Germaic language which replaced the 'I' with 'J' which was closer to the Hebrew letter sound "ye." Unfortunetly the Germaic was taken as is and pronounced with English phenetic.

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